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April 12, 2021

Ep 35: F**k Dhoom 2!

Ep 35: F**k Dhoom 2!

Get ready to create excitement as Sean and Giannis watch Sean's favorite Bollywood movie, the action film "Dhoom 2". Folks, hold onto your butts. This is gonna be a wild ride. 

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Sean:

Hello this is Sean and welcome to fuck your opinion a movie review podcast before we get started please make sure to like follow subscribe write a review of this podcast wherever you are listening right now and please be sure to follow us on Facebook Twitter or Instagram all those are linked in the description enjoy the episode Okay, I'm recording just let's just do another test Oh yeah, that's

Giannis:

working. Okay, by the way, I just wanted to let you know I'm not recording on my backup.

Sean:

We have you been recording and your backup for the last like 20 episodes?

Giannis:

No, no, I just I want to remind you I'm still not doing it. I want you to know and I want everyone at home to even though you're going to cut this I want everyone to know You brought me down to your level when slowly gradually It was a process okay? It's like the processes of us of us becoming friends you just importuning and then me making all these various animal surrenders these capitulations until eventually I gave in a base myself and agreed to be your friend now and now I'm here now I'm here. I'm on your podcast. I'm a guest

Sean:

I said we know we're gonna I'm gonna cut this so why bother making this fucking joke?

Giannis:

Oh no, it's you know, maybe a little like audio easter egg at the dafter the credits roll right?

Sean:

What are our our episodes run too long anyways, I get something bloated like this. In the beginning. I just say fuck it. It's all gone out.

Giannis:

And let's get started. Okay.

Sean:

Hello, and welcome to fuck your opinion. This is a movie review. Hello, and welcome. Oh, you're

Giannis:

welcome to

Sean:

the review party has to be yours truly, if

Giannis:

you're Sean Corbin, someone

Sean:

else and someone wandered in here. I said, shoot. This is my own face. Mike. I record past our views by myself. Put it on my desk and record annoying person just hatched

Giannis:

myself in to this Zen caster recording every every week at 1230 on a Wednesday 12:30pm you were not invited on a Wednesday? Well, no. I said I patched myself in I hack. I'm a very talented hacker you know that? You've known me for what? 13 years, you should know how good I am at hacking on just because you plus you JavaScript. Some other coding language just

Sean:

because you downloaded the Adobe Suite illegally doesn't mean you're a good hacker just means you found a link somewhere. No, no, no,

Giannis:

I actually didn't get it illegally. I didn't get it illegally. Granted, granted, it's 5.5. But I got it all the way back years and years ago from a teacher who really liked me she got it for the class and then just gave it to me It gave me a copy it was

Sean:

Yeah, that's that's some bullshit. folks know me four years ago that he got not if you want to say that for part of the posterity of the podcast. So the cops listening because of the 15 listeners we have, inevitably one of them has to be a police officer involved in cyber crimes

Giannis:

inevitably.

Sean:

Yeah, and never Sure. Sure. So that one person goes Oh, just like I know Giannis is not 10 of them feeling the A

Giannis:

to be perverts inevitably because they're on the internet. Oh, inevitably, inevitably, inevitably. And do.

Sean:

I'm glad you made that transition. You were going to do it too.

Giannis:

I have we all it was it was a it was an absolutely. What did we watch?

Sean:

Wow. A year and we're right to it.

Giannis:

So I really want to just streamline this one. I want to get through it. You know I do. Yeah. You know what this was like for me? You know why you pick this movie?

Sean:

Yeah, I know. I know. I picked this. So folks, today we watch the Bollywood classic Dhoom to can something

Giannis:

that's 15 years old be a classic? No, I don't know. I don't think

Sean:

so. To me.

Giannis:

Okay. What else is a classic to you, Kelly Clarkson?

Sean:

Why her careers about why don't Kelly Clarkson be classic about the same age as a classic to me even though you hate it? What Ocean's 12 as a classic,

Giannis:

again, like 15 years old, okay.

Sean:

What's the definite like how old does a movie have to be the be a classic? What's the age? 30 years minimum?

Giannis:

30 years

Sean:

30 years is that minimum made? Yeah,

Giannis:

that's what I say Fight Club not a classic Goodfellas classic. Shawshank is almost a classic. It's getting there. It's real close on. A classic. No, it's not a classic. It's timely. It's not a classic yet

Sean:

give it this is like your stupid six year the film definition. It's so arbitrary. It doesn't matter. No,

Giannis:

no no no no for something to be classic. It's in the definition of the word classic

Sean:

is 30 years plus to temporality

Giannis:

it is linked to time. You can't force the word classic thing and its definition from a concept of

Sean:

a movie is over 10 years old. It can be in the quote unquote classic category because it is of a social network a classic

Giannis:

Yes, The King's Speech a classic.

Sean:

I approximately know Kingsmead sucks that can say, I hate that movie.

Giannis:

What was that movie with? Rachel dropped that I got you for your birthday. Is that a classic now? It came out in 2008. Right spring it wasn't Spring Breakers. It was spring break down. There you go spring.

Sean:

Something

Giannis:

Who knows? That's the French title. That's a classic. No, it's it's over 10 years old.

Sean:

It's I haven't even watched it and it's a piece of garbage.

Giannis:

You're a classic whatever. Right here

Sean:

to the bait Yani stupid definitions of things. We're here to make his own definitions that are his own definitions.

Giannis:

sucks hard. They would say in Hindi. We're here to talk about Dhoom to the Bollywood and I stress again, classic Bollywood now now even Indian listeners might go Whoa, Sean classic. That's a little bit too much for Dhoom too. But you know what

Sean:

You know, they I wouldn't put it past people. But you know what, I love this movie. I love it so much. Hey, listeners,

Giannis:

I'm Dean equivalent to Mission Impossible to for English viewers. Just want to let you know, by the way, heads up.

Sean:

Okay, keep going one equivalent, I would say a mishmash of similar ish films. It's basically this movie is basically the Fast and Furious Bollywood version, but it takes the idea of fast and furious and a little bit of bad boys as well and just amps it up and just goes full crazy for ridiculous for insane. And is all the better for it. We don't got all the juniors for my family bullshit. I know. We like to make fun of it. But it really drags those movies down anyways, why did I pick Dhoom 2 I know why did I Why do I

Giannis:

love this movie so much? Because you're the person you are after? 30 some odd episodes. I'm pretty sure people know exactly why you pick noon to you probably don't even

Sean:

my schpeel I want to get into my schpeel I have a whole I bullet points listed out go. So back in 2015 I was kind of in a law and I was really frustrated with action movies. I was so sick of American action movies, because there are they were often very tall. Very shoddily done shakey cam, and above all just too serious all the time, and bothers me to know. And even the movies that are quote unquote, silly or Goofy, like the Fast and Furious movies still take themselves seriously enough that it just never felt fun or enjoyable. And then around that time, I had a one two punch where I discovered this movie called sing home, watch the clip online and I'm like, Oh my god, I need more of this. So I watched that movie, but then I follow that up with a Dhoom trilogy. And Dhoom two is what really solidified it for me like, this is my jam. This is my movie genre, that it's almost like eye opening experience where you didn't know this thing existed, but it was everything you needed in your whole life. And that's how I felt. Even from the very beginning of this movie, when we're thick is jumping out like skydiving out of this helicopter in slow motion. And the song just goes oh yeah, in such a weird silly way. I'm like, this is amazing. And it just gets so much better as time goes on now, Giannis I'm sure you will appreciate t is. But when I was first watc ing this movie during the ope ing sequence, I was eating sweet and sour chicken and it's re lly good Chinese place and Au tin and I almost choked and die on the chicken I was eating a d I am on a cough it up. And com on what this hasn't soured the mood. I am on this mo

Giannis:

Come on Hindu gods. Why would you do

Sean:

that? Yeah, we might not have had this podcast if I died. I'm on Shambo.

Giannis:

You have all you have all of them.

Sean:

Anyways, yeah, I this is one of my top 10 favorite films of all time I watch a I adore off so much. I'm not saying it's the top 10 best movie of all time. I'm just saying no, no, no your favorite. This is in your top 10 favorites. It's in my top 10 favorites. I bought it on DVD. I own it. I knew shot digital. I will say my top 10 is easily the most flawed and on the back half of that number. And once it's like seven or so, but still on the top 10 my favorite Bollywood movie and it's time again. It's not the best Bollywood movie I've seen but it's the combination of when I saw it my nostalgia and love for it but it's just it's as we will get into it really is just balls the wall crazy. And every time I watch it, I just have such a great time. Anyways, also, what I find that even though this movie is very flawed, I think some of the flaws are just make it almost more endearing to me, in a way. Anyways, I picked this movie, because Well, honestly, as soon once we started the podcast all the way in Episode One, about a year ago, I knew I was gonna edit this movie. This was a movie that I intended to pick from the very beginning and I wanted to force you to watch it the whole time.

Giannis:

Hey, now, that being said, I think you should you should do a little audio footnote to two events that to provide a little evidence of the fact that you did actually say that so Sean editing this, this is the perfect place to put an audio footnote here to

Sean:

go back. That's so much work to just find that ultimately,

Giannis:

I'll tell you where it is. I'll tell you the exact I'll give you the time

Sean:

copy when it shows on episode.

Giannis:

Yeah, I'll do it for you. There it's done.

Sean:

Can you believe it's been a year since we watched that movie?

Giannis:

I honestly Wish I could go back to that after watching Dhoom two I'm like Please someone Shahrukh Khan come back come back I need you critically more more importantly critic need you is it critic or Hrithik? Can I just say Hrithik or do I have to say critic,

Sean:

you can say what I folks, we're gonna mispronounce these names. We're going to try our best but we're certainly gonna mispronounce them. I looked online for because I've heard both ways. I have said Hrithik in the past but I think it's terrific that th so

Giannis:

oh you know better Chronicles of Hrithik that's no Nevermind. I'm gonna call them Chronicles of Hrithik. So Vin Diesel.

Sean:

Yes, Vin Diesel is coming up quite a bit on this. Anyways, see? Yeah, I also knew when I picked that movie back a year ago that when this one came up, you're gonna beg we had to watch that again.

Giannis:

So I hate substance. You know, I didn't think I after watching rowdy read Hor and kabhi, Khushi, kabhie. Gone. It's like you've just descended this slope into an emotional paucity, you know, where there exists no deep heartfelt attachment to the characters you're watching on screen and within that exists Dhoom 2 somehow rowdy rat whore, Lies Beneath that lies beyond the terminus of the entrance to that trench. And Kabhi Khushi Kabhi God is much closer to the surface button. I don't know how we've gone in to the trench. I'd like to leave the trench because I'm not I don't go into the trench with a good taste in my mouth for Indian filmmaking or Bollywood films. I don't I don't have a good taste Sean.

Sean:

Say I knew My Name

Giannis:

Is Khan. Can we please watch My Name Is Khan. I'm gonna do I have to watch it. If you want for us to watch my name is Korean head. I want to

Sean:

like somehow watch it, please. Alright, so writing wise, like I said, this movie is flawed. So I would say objectively, I'm gonna give it a 7.5 but subjectively because I love it so much 10 out to

Giannis:

get to do that now to No,

Sean:

no, I'm just saying this one time, one time because I understand the disparity. Anyways, that's why I love it. Giann

Giannis:

What's your what's your subjective rating? You said subjectively, my subjective

Sean:

was 10 out of 10 i right gave it subjective. Oh, wow. 10 objective 7.5

Giannis:

Okay, what's next? All right, got it. So

Sean:

we go on to the next section, which is the plot summary by the disinterested disaffected party disinterested party. What's the summary?

Giannis:

ridic rashaan steps up to the plate with very poorly translated interpretations of and I can't believe that these would actually somehow fall into the same movie Mission Impossible to Daredevil. And you know what scene I'm talking about Sean. I actually have not seen their devil in full there's a basketball scene between Jenna Gardner. Yeah, which I swear they ripped. They ripped straight out of Daredevil.

Sean:

Oh, yeah. And they're to be cleared there are things that they ripped right out of like heat and Point Break as well. Oh, no,

Giannis:

there are there are scenes from Disney movies like cars that they ripped literally out of cars like they took

Sean:

let's not copying a scene that's just putting the cars into the clip put

Giannis:

cars like Disney Jetix channel in there too. I mean, there's just so many odd choices. I can't you know, I I honestly forgot. I wouldn't have to do this. I honestly forgot that I would have to do this. I'm sorry. It's just I was so fried after watching it. I'm so busy. It's midterms. Man.

Sean:

I got a lot of work. All right, well, Giannis life is h rd for you. I guess I'm crying. My eyes out hard. Life is a so really misspell your name. ut you kn

Giannis:

I'm making it where usually the worst thing I read is the worst sort of media I imbibe on a weekly basis is my students work. Somehow you beat them, you beat them this week, Sean Ocean's 12 higher, this lower significantly, adult provided

Sean:

action. So to happen

Giannis:

you need to provide an actual summary

Sean:

is most people don't need to no surprise that this is the first time that I'm worse than your students. I would think that I'm consistently lower than them in my choices, but I guess I just have great taste,

Giannis:

you know, crew of hundreds of adults in their 20s and 30s. In 2005. All their creative choices worse than college freshmen. Yeah, it's surprising, but it's true.

Sean:

Anyways. Geez, I didn't even think about this plot. Sorry. All

Giannis:

right. So So you didn't think about Okay, get off my back.

Sean:

Yeah, but the other ones the funny one. That's the one they think about this is the rambley one. Honestly, as much as I love this movie, it does have a little bit of an incoherent plot. So I'm going to try my best, essentially, with Sean plays. I'm just gonna say right, it gets easier. I apologize. reticle. Sean plays a master thief who goes in and out of crazy disguises in order to steal the most priceless and valuable items in the world. So he's doing that. Meanwhile, abishek machane and I forgot the partner's name. Oh, Ali Lee. So abishai who plays j and his partner Ali are basically on the hunt to capture this master thief. And that's the first half second half because there's an intermission they essentially j recruits another female thief in order to essentially go undercover and entice Mr. A aka retic rashaan into revealing himself and also won the middle of a heist get arrested you know, and plans go awry. That's just crazy action scenes dances in high skies I don't want to tell you

Giannis:

that's what this movie is excitement is created create excitement to create exciting Yeah,

Sean:

Dhoom Dhoom dhoom. Dhoom Machar lag Dhoom Chatroulette joke joke joke.

Giannis:

Once again. Okay, what is it before we go any further? What does that word mean? Do who do what does it mean? What's the direct translation? Do you have it? Or is it just like bang bang

Sean:

bang BAM excitement you know,

Giannis:

bam. Yeah, create excitement only.

Sean:

So what's what's the next section? We got Giann

Giannis:

The next section is the part where you go on to the yoki green tea website and try to find a random quote for the day because you don't actually agree. You don't actually drink Yogi tea.

Sean:

Wow, that's insanely accurate Viviani. Thank you. Well, today's quote from the yogi Sharma website is the quote is what would you feel if I died right now?

Giannis:

Nothing.

Sean:

No chore? Do you love me and love to take my life?

Giannis:

It's not love. It's not it's not love now, it was never about love and it never will be. It's entirely about altruism. doing it for the better of the world. Yeah, that would be it.

Sean:

You're welcome. Just kidding, guys. This is not a quote from the yogi green tea website. And the last quote is get lost Giannisyour punishment s your lif

Giannis:

I mean, yeah, this this was two hours and Okay, let me just, I'm just gonna go quick sideline here. I'm gonna rant real quick. Amazon crime, which I watched this on. When I was looking up the title. It told me this would only be 131 minutes. Lo and behold, when I hit play in it, not only is it not 131 minutes, how long is it, Sean?

Sean:

It's two and a half hours.

Giannis:

It's two and a half hours long. So amazon prime, get it together. Okay, you're making people's lives unnecessarily difficult. Okay, really complicating things

Sean:

to piggyback off that one of my favorite things about the Hindi language movies is the English. Sure it had to,

Giannis:

but I think Amazon even even your subtitles were in broken English, even the subtitles.

Sean:

I love when the subtitles are just when a character will say something in English. And the subtitle the subtitle is still something different. Like how did you not translate that one? Right. The thing that I know about Amazon specifically was that normally in these movies there's an intermission there's an interval I actually really loved that I loved that delineation. It's something that's really special and unique to Hindi language movies and Amazon just cut it it cut it in the middle. I understand why it did it just I like seeing interval or seeing intermission even it's for like five seconds. I just want that. And I know we'd made that they cut it out. Which is why I'm like, I'm going back to my DVD. That's why on the DVD, great story. Also going back to subtitles really quick. It wasn't in this movie, but I love it when someone will curse in any movie like say shit, or Fuck, and they in the subtitles will start it out or beep it out or something. Even though they say it, they say it out loud. I'm like, kind of defeats the purpose who you

Giannis:

swore at English. I know what you said. The kids know what you said. The Indian Film Board knows what you said. Okay. So after what are we on gives us those fake Yogi green tea quotes that very frequently are just quotes from the movie that we watched. And I stress movie. After that. We know

Sean:

this is a very lofty, heavy film about very important ideas such as forgiveness and what it means to live life.

Giannis:

What we do after that is we usually talk about our favorite aspects, but I really don't have any so this is just going to be a lot of Sean talking about why he likes this and then me groaning or just saying grown grown. Go start. What was your here? I'll start I'll start with my first fake thing that I wrote on the outline on the Google Doc that we share fake thing. First fake thing, critic

Sean:

thumbs up critic roshar and it's gonna be critic, Rashad,

Giannis:

you delicious idiot. That's my first thing. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, it's not a bad looking dude. Is

Sean:

his delicious and he's also, you know,

Giannis:

I care a lot.

Sean:

I like him a lot. As an actor. He's not necessarily the most he's like a Keanu in a sense, you know? Or, yeah, you're not going man. This guy's gonna win a lot of awards, but he's hasn't really engaging screen presence to be auto in in Bram Stoker's

Giannis:

Dracula, like Keanu.

Sean:

Oh, not that. Yeah. No, that's not bad Keanu. No, I Point Break, ya know, this is Point Break. Well, like sways

Giannis:

talks to? No, no, no, no, he's kiato. One point break.

Sean:

Yeah. Now avishek is Yeah. Anyways, I

Giannis:

digress. reticle. Sean, he, you know, he's, he's charismatic. He keeps he's got some moves, opening dance scene, the opening dance scene. You know, he's dancing real. Well, I don't know what else I can say

Sean:

folks in rivaling that Gene Kelly.

Giannis:

I'm surprised you just saying that in Los Angeles, like you just did. I'm surprised you didn't just spontaneously combust. I feel like you shouldn't be allowed to say something like that legally. That should not be permitted within the LA county lines. But somehow we're still doing this podcast. So I guess I digress. Yeah, guys, look, there's no beating around the bush. Ridiculous. Sean has a double thumb on his right hand.

Sean:

We're just getting right in your second point.

Giannis:

Okay, we're getting we're getting no we're getting right into it. Because it's directly related to the end. I'm going to return to this point, time and time again. because let me tell you as soon as soon as I saw the double thumb, which I didn't get it at first. I didn't see it first, probably for the first 30 minutes. I until I looked at the time, by the way, you told me ahead of time, and I disregarded the text. I didn't even think about it. And then 30 minutes in, I remembered the text you sent me and I'm like, Okay, well, what? Wait a second, hold up, hold up here. They, they're just like really inconsistent with the extra thumb. Like, why? Why does his character have an extra thumb? And then I remember Sean's text. Oh, shit. That's not makeup. That's real. Critic. rashaan has two thumbs on his right hand. And every time he's on screen, my eyes couldn't not instinctively go to seek out the double thumb wherever it was. So the last maybe two hours of this movie. I'm really hazy on because I just spent every second he was there. Try to confirm that I was seeing the double thumb. mono watched it with me. Yeah. And, you know, I think she was able to get past it because of the way the guy looked. But for me, it was just thumb. It was thumb the entire time. Very handsome. I couldn't put my thumb on it, but

Sean:

thumb. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Giannis:

So that's two of my likes. Joke. It was a bad joke. And I have another really good bad joke. You know what? Honestly, do I get into it right now? Yes, I'm going into it. Sure why the final showdown should have just been a thumb wrestling match? Because I'll tell you what critic would have won it right out the gates. He had an unfair advantage. But yes, he would have won a thumb wrestling match. And what how it ends him and this woman that Sean talked about scenario, the woman who is meant to entice him, he and her fake his death by her shooting him in the chest at him falling off of a cliff into a waterfall, and then nobody drags the river for his body. Or she also doesn't go to jail for interfering with an investigation. But whatever. Let's forget that

Sean:

her life he told him to get forget about that. Yeah,

Giannis:

yeah, that's enough. Sure.

Sean:

I'll support that in there. I don't know why not. But

Giannis:

if they had just said, Look, bro, if I can beat you thumb wrestling Best two out of three. You got to let me go. And then I'm gonna return all the squibs and the blanks because those cost a lot of rupees and I could really use that now that I'm not going to be performing it thumb. The thumb. There's a lot of thumb in this movie. There's too much. I mean, I can't say there's too much thumb because it's great that the guys getting work with a double thumb. Sean and I were having an argument before we started recording about you know, if he had if he was an American same same level of attractiveness. Trying to get into the business would he have gone as far with a double thumb as he did in India? 100% I said no way. I was thinking stunt double

Sean:

his family connections. So if he had the same type of family connections, the same handsomeness and everything going on?

Giannis:

Yes, I do. Okay, okay. Okay. Lena Dunham. Imagine if Lena Dunham had two noses on her face and

Sean:

not compare Lena Dunham.

Giannis:

Yes. Ready for shot? Yes. Yes, I can. Or How's about No, let's go. All right. All right. Zoe, de Chanel. Let's say Zoey Deschanel equally as attractive. That's

Sean:

more appropriate. Sure. Father and

Giannis:

Mother both big in the industry. Father is an award winning cinematographer. Let's say she was equally as attractive getting into the industry. But oh, wait, she's got two noses. Double nose, she has a third nostril right on top of

Sean:

you can't get into an industry with double nose.

Giannis:

No. She'd have to, she'd have to get it surgically. That's like Joaquin Phoenix, Joaquin Phoenix got the cleft palate fixed. And now he's walking Phoenix, I'd say he would have to get the double thumb surgically fixed. If he wanted a career. In the United States.

Sean:

I thumb is far different than a double nose. You can't get past a double nose, you straight The face is your main asset. And because the face is your main main asset, not the thumb, you know what you can do is tuck your thumbs in your pockets all the time.

Giannis:

But double thumb It was so distracting. Sean, I told you I don't really remember the second the last two hours.

Sean:

Because again, no you don't. But double thumb. Double thumb to go off of your previous point about a thumb wrestling contest. I don't think it should have been at the end. I think instead of the basketball scene in the rain. That's where it should have been because that's where the thumb was the most prominent. I mean, there's this one shot. Yeah, yeah, he had no hand to shake her hand. You're like, you just can't not see it. And Gosh, the double phone and you go,

Giannis:

I'll tell you what that would have been. Its

Sean:

romantic. And I'm like, that would have been the perfect placement for it because it would be

Giannis:

a lot easier on the editors because at least in that case, they wouldn't have had to try so dang hard editing within an inch of their lives to try to make that woman look like she could play basketball. I really could. But she's they have to cut around her so much. What is your day ribet Cha Zarya rabid Sean Aishwarya Rai Bachchan. It looked like she had maybe picked up a basketball three times before production began.

Sean:

Do you retire? So this is the movie where she met Abisheck and married him. Do you think if Hrithik didn't have a doubl thumb she would have gone wit him instead

Giannis:

Now, here's the here's the territory I don't want to venture into because part of me thinks the double thumb in certain territory or certain realms of one's personal life might come in handy. Pon Nintendo,

Sean:

you're saying is Mona wished you had a double thumb for some, you know, extra curricular activities. Or

Giannis:

Yes, the double thumb might be useful in in certain extracurricular activities. Let's call it that. Let's refer to it as that. So you know, I am not one to speak for the attractions of women. I have no idea why I have a fiance right now. I don't I don't see it. There now yeah

Sean:

you don't get a legit I don't understand it. It doesn't make any sense to me

Giannis:

but here I am. So you know what I can't say? I can't say why or why not

Sean:

she didn't wind up with Hrithik but I don't think it was the thumb because the thumb while it was a joke, obviously she ended up with Abishek because he is the son of Amitabha Amitabha is the biggest star and Indian royalty and his son looks remarkably like them. So of course the hope is what's gonna happen

Giannis:

yeah, except I don't know man. Could you could you sharpen a knife on his abs because your code on red X

Sean:

you know, I made him know that. ABA scheck is the only character to not take his shirt off the entire movie. Every other character does but not him.

Giannis:

On a soft he looks a little

Sean:

look like a soft boy. It looks like he didn't have this the ABS underneath. So he was like, we're not doing that. Just give me a what was that T shirt he had with the lip was like a Rolling Stone shirt. Right? Okay, you're

Giannis:

really asking again? I told you thumb. Okay. I was focusing on the thumb, the majority of the time.

Sean:

All right. Can I Can we move on? We've talked about this thumb for like 10 fucking minutes. Okay,

Giannis:

yeah, you could talk about the other things you liked. Now, like I said, I have nothing that I actually liked about this. Really? My last thing was just objectively as a heterosexual male. A lot of good looking women in this movie. Can't deny it. Rabbit john. I don't remember the other woman's name. She plays two characters. You know that whole early 2000s oversized chest under size, but thing really made me nostalgic.

Sean:

Yeah, me too.

Giannis:

There you go. Those are my likes. I don't actually is the thumbnail? Like it's not really uh, like, it's just an obsession.

Sean:

The thumb is an obsession don't understand, we would have gotten these we would have gotten to all three of these points if you let me go in my order. But you had to be a real Curt about it, and just breeze through all your things. So now I'm gonna look like a real fucking ass or something. Because that would have been separate points. But now I got to deal all at one point.

Giannis:

Just call me snake plissken because I'm a real Kurt.

Sean:

Whoa, like I thought you were dead. And I wish you're dead.

Giannis:

Just Carl The Herald Lubis? Because I'm the president in Escape from New York.

Sean:

New York. You're a number one.

Giannis:

What are your likes?

Sean:

Okay, so first like, and this is kind of the general but all encompassing, like is the insanity and craziness of the tone and how this movie gives absolutely zero fucks about trying to make any sense. And really, as Giannis was alluding to earlier, is 100 110% about st le and 0% about substance it d es not give a single shit ab ut substance. And it's I mean, e en the very beginning Hrit ik skydives onto a moving train in the desert and pretends to be the he puts on a disguise he disguise of the Queen of Engl nd he pretends to be the queen of Engl

Giannis:

in order to by the way by the way, you see the Queen before he jumps on the train and it's just him and white face it's him in white face he gets on the train it's still hidden white face both versions of the Queen him and then the Queen are both played by critic Rashad yeah in white face and never once is it convincing it is the second I saw it I was like What is going on? This is clearly a man dressed up as a woman.

Sean:

It was interesting seeing that I watched the behind the scenes of them actually putting the makeup on him. And he was just looked at as nails you know, like hands out, you know like Ooh, look at my nails. But still him for the most part of my God. That's kind of funny. Anyways, horrifying. It's just so he steals his diamond and gets off on the top of the train rips off the mask of the queen. So he's in this dress head down. But then we see him looking cool. Zoom in on him being like, you know smoldering looking at the camera. But again in this dress on top of this train. I'm like Jesus fucking Christ. What the hell am I watching right now? What is this movie? And by the way,

Giannis:

after that happens he whips out a sandboard and starts sandboarding behind the train while a guard she fires a shotgun at him. He eventually dispatches the guard and you think okay, he's gonna get back on the train. He's gonna do something like he's gonna hijack the train. There had to be a reason he couldn't just jump off the train and not get shot at by the guard. You know, just leave all that behind. Go do stuff. No, no, he he dispatches the guard. He just Back on the train, and then the next day you see of him, he's just surfing down a sand dune. Like he didn't even have to stick with a train the whole time.

Sean:

He doesn't even just dispatcher the guard, he hops back onto the train, and does this backflip with the board to knock him off and train. And also this Guard has a harpoon gun. Like why do you just have a harpoon gun just lying around on this train? When you think man, a harpoon gun is gonna come in real

Giannis:

handy sound like a broken record every time during one of your episodes. But it just

Sean:

it doesn't make sense. But here's the thing it makes there's a difference between this doesn't add up. And so the difference between that and this is so insane. It's like they intentionally said, fuck it, we're just gonna do our own thing. And that's why I think this movie does. I mean, another example at the very end, there is this motorcycle chase sequence, whether the cops are chasing Hrithik through this tunnel, and in this sequence, like not even the entire sequence, but in about a minute and a half of screen time. I wrote down about 10 questions about the logistics of it not making sense so

Giannis:

like what happened to the helicopter pilot?

Sean:

Yes, like the cops so the cops are in the motorcycle and somehow tracked down Hrithik, ho do they track down Hrithik fir t of all Second of all, they' e just in the back of t e helicopter just come in li e their motorcycles ready just p p out I've never seen th t helicopter like that doesn t make any sense then we have a crazy chase I'm going to igno e that then at the end of t e tunnel the helicopters on t e other side of the tunnel a d what time did that is that t e same helicopter didn't fly fr m the other end. How did th t happen? Wh

Giannis:

did that happen? Or maybe they turned around but we didn't see it?

Sean:

It was but it was it was so quick anyways there's a ramp right in front of the end of the tunnel. Why is there a ramp just randomly there so perfectly there? Hrithik in his motorcycle and Aishwarya Rai Bachchan is on the motorcycle with him they leap up use the ramp go over the helicopter she throws a grenade into the helicopter presumably blowing up and killing two guys one or two guys but there's no

Giannis:

fellow there or pilot

Sean:

Yeah, so we don't know. Also the grenade is not even an actual grenade. It's this weird silver grenade thingy. It's not again not a legit actual grenade then but the blades are turning

Giannis:

the elec the helicopter is active. Somebody is in the cockpit.

Sean:

Yeah. They kill a guy.

Giannis:

He kills a guy

Sean:

anyways, helicopter blows up the main two cops managed to run through the explosion in their motorcycles with ease even though this is a metal contraption on fire, they would just run right into it. It wouldn't happen. And then we cut to a totally different space which had to have been at least a mile if not further out from where we just were so we cut to this other space then our Shaq chases Hrithik by himself Hrithik is like, oh, let's hav a showdown right now. So h stops his motorcycle. ABA check Accidentally runs into a smal like not even like a barely ramp almost like a divot in th ground, but manages that, tha propels him over reading wis

Giannis:

over

Sean:

why is Obama guy,

Giannis:

he doesn't just skim him. He's got like five feet between the top of his head Yeah, and his bottom, the bottom of his wheels.

Sean:

So avishek lands, right. And we know spatially how far they far away they are. It's very clear, they're like five feet away, right? There's no way that can be any further away,

Giannis:

maybe 15, maybe five feet, maybe I'll give them five yards that's being generous, sure that that is being generous. But

Sean:

the point is, they have a stare down than it could chew them racing towards each other able to one minute sequence. I mean, it's hard not to wait 20 seconds sequence and then it feels like 20 minutes charging at each other. And in order to have that distance for them to both be racing at each other. They would have had to have been at least like a mile away from each other. So how did he get that far? But here's the thing. I do not care this movie knows that it makes literally zero sense. And it goes along with it. And continuing on with what I'm talking about what tone because I kind of over looked at but I don't want to forget it or the disguises that Hrithik use these are the most creative an crazy and out there disguises have you ever seen in a fil where you know and an America movie a care you know, this i almost like, Ocean's 12 where t Lord just put on a bit of a wi and a mustache and his whateve but he's still pretty handsom right? Now when it says I' going to be the queen o England. No, I'm going to b this all janitor. No, I'm goin to be this fucking dwarf Seve Knights. I mean, I'm Snow Whit in the Seven Dwarves. He's on of the fucking dwarves. Thes are the most asinine my sur horrifying he crazy disguises But I love them so much becaus I would have never thought o don't doing it. And it wa

Giannis:

the characters Eddie Murphy plays in my nightmares. That's what they look like imagine Norbit, but not Norbit. But the fat chick that Eddie Murphy also plays. Imagine that, but her face was also melted by a hairdryer for like five hours.

Sean:

Yeah, that's when all the old Jewish guy and coming to America, you know, it sounds like a mix of all three of them, which is

Giannis:

just quick segue in the sequel. Does Eddie Murphy do any white face?

Sean:

He is the old Jewish guy again. Okay, good. All right. All right. It doesn't look as good

Giannis:

as Rick Baker's, but I mean, come on. It was Yeah, this was an Amazon Prime movie.

Sean:

That was originally apparently gonna be with Amazon Prime bado.

Giannis:

Oh, nevermind. paramount. Well, you think they're going to show any real money into an Eddie Murphy movie these days?

Sean:

I don't think the original had a huge budget, but why didn't anyways, so

Giannis:

why was it good? I don't know. Yeah, I like coming to America. Coming to America. It's

Sean:

a fantastic film.

Giannis:

i'm john Landis. It's a john Landis movie. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good in the 70s and 80s. And then he kind of lost it but yeah, blues, solid 12 years. His career.

Sean:

Then he kill a couple. Okay, what's

Giannis:

your next thing? What else did you like?

Sean:

Anyways? We're sorry, I just to finish off disguises. There's also even though there are a lot of disguises I love There are also times where he's just super fucking lazy and just basically put on a hat and a mustache and says, here's my disguise guys. And I shy away but Sean is like, Who are you? I don't recognize you at all.

Giannis:

He's slightly curly hair. And she has no idea who he is in glass. Wow.

Sean:

You're so clever.

Giannis:

Oh, it's me. I have a regular thumb on my right hand now.

Sean:

You I thought that would have given it away. Right.

Giannis:

Gotcha. It was a the whole time. All right, time to go get that fake time to go into a very painful surgery to have that thing reattached. What's your next thing? Because where would I focus, I spent a lot of time talking about the thumb listeners. And I'm still probably going to talk about the thumb. It's going to keep coming up. I'm sure wasted a lot of time on the thumb. What's your next thing thumb.

Sean:

My next my next thing my next thing that I like, sorry. My next thing The next thing that I like it are the musical dance sequences as well as the action sequences. I love every single song in this movie. I listened to them all on repeat. I go back and forth as to which is my favorite. When I first watched the movie I thought touched me was amazing side note real quick story for you folks, because I don't think we brought this up in the podcast. Giannis nd I once went on a trip toget er and we did karaoke. And we id karaoke. We challenge each ot er and said, okay, the other per on has to pick a song or the ot er person, but you don't know w at it is. You essentially re getting onto the stage beca se it's a whole crowd of peop e. And you don't know what you re going to have to sing Giannis What song did you pick for me t sing in front of a crowd f ll of people that mean knowing w at it was going to be ahead of time? Oh

Giannis:

it must have been that song by the Devon ELS.

Unknown:

Oh, what was it all?

Giannis:

Yeah. Touch myself.

Sean:

Yeah, so I had to sing.

Giannis:

I touched myself when she didn't know the lyrics to apparently he never heard the song before.

Sean:

Folks. I I knew the song. But I never studied the lyrics and how many times I had to actually save the way

Giannis:

I touched myself.

Sean:

because let me tell you, there aren't really any other lyrics. Besides, I touched myself about 50 times

Giannis:

when I think about you I touch myself. I don't want anybody else. Because when I think about you, I touch myself. I touch myself. I really do. I touch myself. Sean, I touch myself. When I think about you, I touch myself.

Sean:

I sung a Hannah Montana. I

Giannis:

really, really do. And I was far less embarrassed by that than I was to say I touch myself and Sean was really original. He had me saying you guessed it Smash Mouth.

Sean:

I just didn't think you would get that far. Anyways, yeah,

Giannis:

I got that far. And guess what blew the hat blew the roof off the place. blew it off. No, that is not and you know, it's not. She knows. I told her the story. And I told her I said they didn't mean anything. Because when I was singing it, you were the only one in the crowd in my mind. Did matter how many how many adoring young women were out there because you're the only one I saw. It's only you.

Sean:

It's Yani got all the girls and the only girl talk to me said get off the stage. You're ruining my favorite song.

Giannis:

Well, hey, no, there wasn't a girl wasn't there? There

Sean:

is some some some guy came on to me. And I was flattered, but Donnie, and I still have this debate as to whether he was coming or is coming or shot and it's not that either of us are gay, but we just want the satisfaction to know he was hitting on us.

Giannis:

I still think it was me. I the guy was drunk. It was clear that he was drunk

Sean:

I was drawn bar knocking Well, we didn't actually get drunk.

Giannis:

Well no, but I'm what I'm saying is he could have been talking to me but facing you. It's highly possible. I love moustache. You know it's a magnet for the ladies sometimes

Sean:

you know anyways, I want to get back to my point okay, which I love the action all the action scenes are so awesome. They are so cool. They are the action scenes that I reference time and time again as my favorites in particular the jewel heist around 3040 minutes in in which Hrithik steals hi jewel the high school but the we have you know normally in movie we have a getaway chas right? Yani made a point in th circle rouge podcast that Oh you need you have absolutely yo need to have a getaway car Right? Well where it says no, don't need a getaway car. I nee to get away rollerblade

Giannis:

first sound of a sewer. He just sat on a sewer burst. Also he doesn't jump. He bursts.

Sean:

He looks

Giannis:

like a raging whale.

Sean:

Yeah, that is exactly how it looks. And it is incredible. Also how in the fight like the five to 10 seconds.

Giannis:

Yeah, right. I

Sean:

mean him going into the sewer and coming back out. Did he get rid of all his old man makeup switch into this and be totally dry? Yeah, I don't know possible. I have again. I don't know. I know.

Giannis:

You got to be real with you about something. We talked about the music. Did this include the music yet?

Sean:

I'm gonna get to it. Okay, well, I

Giannis:

have to talk about the action scenes real quick. Talk about the act. In particular the opening one. Yeah, I love it. So about three minutes in Carlisle's here, folks, by the way, got a cat Carlisle's used to be Mona's mother's. I'm hold on to it. Mona's not watching it because she's allergic to cats, but she came over to watch and she came over to watch because I have the Amazon Prime, she has the Hulu. So that's how we like divvy things up. But I had to feed the cat cat had to come out because his giant salad bowl size feeding dish doesn't fit in his crate, and he got out got behind the oven, and it took me a little while to get them out. And that was the first three minutes of this movie. So I missed like half of the train heist. And when I came back, I asked Mona what I missed and she was and she said quote, nothing that a five year old wouldn't have done with his action figures.

Sean:

So I don't believe come onto this podcast and actually say that for her to want me to believe that she actually said that. I think you're just too lazy to rewind,

Giannis:

that's the that's the genuine just that I got and then you know whenever the the thumb is that whenever I wasn't, you know looking for the thumb. I saw some of the action looked okay. Usually it's it's actually in a Bollywood movie, you know, you buy you buy a ticket to the dog show. Don't expect to see snakes out there running after that rabbit going

Sean:

back to what I was talking about from the top of this episode, in that I was very frustrated with Hollywood and American action movies. This movie was a shot of fresh air in that this is exactly what I wanted from my action I want it to be a little silly. I wanted to be a little overtop over the top but I also wanted it to be very clear I wanted to understand literally the geography of the scene and what was going on. You would think that would be not too much to ask for but unfortunately it is these days to understand what's going on and action scene This is very clear at a good stakes. It had a good little story go on the actual scene and it was just so much fun. I enjoyed all the action scenes, but again, the rollerblading heist action or escape action scene is by far my favorite. I love the opening as well. I think the finale action is pretty cool too. Also with the finale action I really just I want to get into this later and that I have a lot fuzzier of a memory with the second half but with the finale action or like the finale fight it slowly just Abishek and Hrithik pu ching each other They're back an forth, like rockem sockem. Yo know, like, bam, bam. And th n every time they hit each ot er, we have like a flash of wh te and like black and white, re l quick flash, and it's just th m trading blows in a really un ophisticated and inorganic wa . That's kind of funny like,

Giannis:

yeah, like those puppets that just beat each other with bats and children's puppet shows like that. It was kind of like that.

Sean:

Yeah. I love it. All. Right, moving on to my third and final point of things I love this is a well, this is kind of like a two parter. First thing I really love are all the character introductions. This movie, you know, you could argue it kind of does the same thing. Every time which is a character turns to the camera, we zoom in and we look at them in slow motion as if they're a model and we have whatever their theme song is blasting in the background, and it works every fucking time when Hrithik i first introduced. I love ho it's a slow motion as he fall onto the train. And then as w zoom in, it's that choppy, slo motion like they didn't realiz they were gonna do slow motio ahead of time. But normally hate that this time. It jus works. It's It was great I love when suhani was introduced. Onc you know she took off he outfit. I love when the cops ar introduced. I love when th female COP is introduced a lo of great sequences. Also, skipped over the opening actio sequence for the two cops. Thi is also another great sequenc where che played by avishe literally comes out of nowher from the water with a jetski an fly basically flies over a boa shoots to die by the way an throws dry

Giannis:

He's totally submerged under the water rides the jetski up to the surface flies out over the boat and he's bone dry by the time he lands. It's not not a drop of water or not even sweating. By the way, what he's talking about character introductions, I have a quick note and this is one of my dislike my really my jaws It feels like my jaws clicking now just talking about him. I have never wanted a character to die. The moment he's introduced for the scene he's introduced as much as all the the second he rides that motorcycle onto the boat. I'm like, I don't like this guy. I have a feeling I'm really not going to like this guy, just the way he looks how he's dressed. I feel like I feel like he's going to be just useless and pointless. And then he starts talking and all of your suspicions are confirmed. And he even says something like, please I don't want to die. And in my mind and out loud. I even said oh my god, which Gods whichever one Shiva do it now, but they didn't. And then half of the movie, not half of the movie, but I'd say like a solid quarter of the runtime is wasted on this guy and does nothing he literally does. He adds nothing to the story. He nothing none of the choices. None of the decisions he makes affects anything. It's not funny. It's not cute. It's not endearing. You're just who is just time.

Sean:

Who would you rather die? Ali or me?

Giannis:

If you had a choice, Ali Ali, you'd rather just Ali, the actor who played Ali for playing

Sean:

me and I don't even think the actor who plays Ali like sadly, most people genuinely hate Ali. He's not a he's not a favorite character. I like Ali. Okay,

Giannis:

here's the one thing I need to know before we move into our dislikes. Who are the recurring what makes this a series who are the recurring characters across entries? Are there any or is it always is it like it

Sean:

comes back and characters only showcase three of them and Jason

Giannis:

no

Sean:

yeah but always folk why thief the thief is like the central character and then cops are like kind of there

Giannis:

This isn't like a Danny Glover Mel Gibson sort of thing where you like where they have like great rep partay and they they bounce really well off each other and they're funny and you know they have great character motivate it's Alia I don't even know how to just I mean I have a description for all Lee I have a description for him in the notes you'll notice that when I talk about all he I talk about him as that useless slouching, mouth breathing muscle bound organ grinders monkey have a partner, but I feel like that doesn't suffice. I feel like that doesn't describe him that just the depths of his pointlessness well enough.

Sean:

I failed Listen, he's a goofball like me I relate to him a lot. I think you shouldn't

Giannis:

you you should relate to you should relate to Yeah, I

Sean:

know. I know. I shouldn't relate them No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Giannis:

no, no the target in the in the gun range,

Sean:

more than you should relate to ollie. The one that she shoots perfectly,

Giannis:

but one that she shoots perfect. Before she disappears in the second half of the movie to become her sister in Rio, and we're going to get to that moving on to our dislikes. By the way,

Sean:

I didn't finish besides Oh, no half of that point that I was going to make and you're going to appreciate this are all the free falls that Hrithik Roshan, because he free falls about five times in this movie, but they're parachuting, jumping off cliffs, etc. Every time is really stunning and really cool and really awesome and never gets old. But it is really funny how many times he does it. It's kind of asinine, like five times going off of that, at the very end of the movie, he falls on the edge of the cliff and is holding himself up. And then he basically hops up, but it's not really a hop, he kind of saw almost like a gust of wind through him upwards. And I'm just thinking to myself, maybe that's his extra thumb. Maybe that's his extra thumb lifting him giving him that much more strength and going off of last meal.

Giannis:

That's where his ladder is how Yeah, it's in the apartment.

Sean:

Last week's episode I brought up that follow up Healy I have a lot of arm pain. I have chronic arm pain, but I have a pull up bar. So I'm trying to get stronger these days. Right. And I'm like, I just want to get strong enough that I can literally thrust myself up from dangling off a cliff just like Hrithik Roshan if I can get to that arm strength level,

Giannis:

I will be happy in my life. Well, it looks like you're just going to have a an existence of unending sadness, Sean, because you're never going to be able to do that. I hate to be the one to inform you. That is an impossibility for you

Sean:

that well, Giannis. Before we move on to the light dislikes I just want to say quick notes an hour and 10 I wrote as a no e, Sir Charles in the night ox have nothing on Mr. A. An I stand by that sentime t. Alright, moving on to he dislikes. Least favorite thi gs Giannis you want to start u

Giannis:

least favorite things? A least favorite thing? But what is my least what is my least favorite thumb here, I'd say my least favorite thumb is going to be expressed in this little my first note, which I wrote as follows was India's entire 1.1 6 billion person population in 2006. Just males aged 12 to 25. I can't think of anyone else this movie possibly caters to it's, I mean, it's just egregious the amount of times that the image or the camera focuses on the female physique in a very exploitative way. It's upsetting. And, you know, I say that from the perspective of somebody living in 2021, but I feel like if I had seen this in 2006, it would have been equally as disturbing as it was now. And you know, it's not just that it's not just visually how we see these women who are all just, you know, hyper chested, very made up very overtly glamorous, sexualized women who don't really have any depth to their personality, the songs they sing, specifically su Neri I think the the her very first song is just pretty much talking about how sexy she is. Is that right? Sean? Can

Sean:

you confirm that that sexy lady on the floor? Yeah.

Giannis:

But there's there's a term that I kind of hate that a lot of people use the term problematic when they don't want to say this thing is kind of gross or this is this is wrong. This is objective Lee a wrong thing. We shouldn't be doing this. That's what people mean when they say this is problematic. They really are saying this disgusts me.

Sean:

They're the way

Giannis:

that this movie frames and portrays and employs its female characters in its plot. And while I say I see us that that term very loosely plot in its plot is kind of disgusting to me. It left a very sour taste in my mouth, and I don't know. Listen, on one side. Yes, I'm a heterosexual man. And I find these things pleasing, because I'm a stupid I'm a stupid man who's full of testosterone and all I think about is breasts. But objectively we look back to the beat till objectivity

Sean:

I gotta say guy,

Giannis:

I'm an everything guy. I really

Sean:

okay you told me in the past your other elk but you know,

Giannis:

but that's my problem. I guess. by any standard it just seems like it was this movie was half of it was designed to to cow the the perverts into the theater so they could masturbate in the dark together. Sean, what's your take on this? No, that's

Sean:

what match Mike is for.

Giannis:

other end of the spectrum, Rog gender.

Sean:

I only say that because I I used to work in a movie theater and in the magic Mike's grading I found some use condoms. Anyways, I half agree with you i agree with the half that the roles that the the female characters have are problematic and they are just underused. I mean Jay has a wife who her only point in the story is to be pregnant and to be jealous of him possibly having an affair the

Giannis:

first like 45 minutes.

Sean:

Yeah, that it does. Female COP is only there to be the sexual Nymann love but like kind of sexual interest in the first half to make the wife jealous. And then in the second half, she's totally disregarded and her sister comes in play by the same actress. For no reason. There's literally no reason for the character swap out. No, it makes no sense. Just really annoyingly, and then the character becomes just a dope. The sister character is just pointless where's the cleaning and unnecessary everywhere at all times?

Giannis:

Is all gold at by Ali just constantly and she's loved it too. That's the other game she's a ditz who

Sean:

I am I have a much bigger problem with the character and story benefit rather than the showcasing their, their sexiness,

Giannis:

their bodies, Fine, whatever. Okay, this

Sean:

has nothing to do because you can't argue that the males don't either. I mean, Ali has a whole shirtless sequence. Hrithik Roshan well. I mean, he's not wholly shirtless. But I'm literally looking at a picture of his abs. I mean, the one of the later scenes when they have a confrontation, he has a shirt on, it kind of just covers the half sides of his chest, but it's really just all ABS this entire scene. So it's not like but he's getting a male equivalent as well. He has pants on. That's the difference. He has pants on Sean. Sure. I think that's a little arbitrary. But you know, we can

Giannis:

argue I don't think it's arbitrary. But the other thing is he's also the he's the protagonist. He's the main he's one of the main characters. And like,

Sean:

I think the main character distinction is the problem you know, and like one of them one of my dislikes is scenary I first saw I don't know if I'm pronouncing that I keep trying to pronounce it right scenario like I'm fucking failing it whether it's scenario scenario. Anyways, I hated her the first time I watched this movie, I didn't think a shorea Ray but Sean's performance was particularly good. And she is really saddled with because she's the only female characters are really have a storyline in this movie. And because first half of the movie, we have Hrithik being cool. Then to throw on this romance between the two. You really got to sell it and neither of them really sold it. But because we already have the first half with Hrithi I feel like I was more forgivin of that character and hi performance were when she' introduced her whole purpose i to be the love interest. An because of that detriment, whic is not entirely her fault, to b fair, it just really hurts tha character. And the other point was going to make like the migh number two was just as much as love this movie. I love it th first half of this movie, th first half of my movie i incredible to me. The secon half of the movie is reall mediocre to a point wher whenever I rewatch this movie very rarely rewatch the secon half I can I just watch th first half go Okay, I'm done I'm going to go to bed I' peacing out I'm good. So ever watch the second half this tim and I will I will admit eve though I still have plenty o problems with it. I still thin it trails off. I liked it a lo more than I have in the past found a newfound appreciatio for it partly because I expecte it partly because a lot o things that I just didn't car for in times past I ended u liking like for example jus specifically the song craz crazy era not even talking abou the dance number any of tha literally just a song I did no like I liked it a lot more thi time around. So I go back an forth. I also really with th end sequence didn't like in th past like a lot more this time So that is all to say secon half could live without I thin it has a lot of room fo improvement. Like I said befor the I know he keeps sayin female cop but I can't remembe her name. Nope, can'

Giannis:

either. He's

Sean:

very forgettable and it's such I just it literally makes no sense. Why did I bring her over by they had to endure her said take her out of the movie just to use a sequence

Giannis:

what I totally forgot she was injured. That's why she didn't come to Rio de Janeiro. Yes, right. Okay. That's really dumb.

Sean:

Yeah, it was. It was a stupid move. It was annoying. is just that that's a huge mistake on the film's part, because that character could have been really cool and really interesting and they stunted her growth before she had a time to shine at the end of the day. All right, Giann s. Anything else you want to br ng up with dislik

Giannis:

Anything else I want to bring up? You know, honestly, look, you know, Sean at a certain point, maybe about five minutes in when I said okay, chasing my cat out from underneath the oven is probably a better experience than watching this I realized this wasn't 100% for me, or it was 100% not for me. I don't really have a third thing you know, I disliked almost everything from Yeah, the Disney plugs to the week characters the plot to the music, at least my hair and makeup, and basically everything but the objectively attractive ladies and Hrithik are Sean's moves and the principal dancing. Yeah, this I can't, I don't really have anything redeeming. This whole time. I've just been trashing it and talking about the thumb and the thumb is very distracting, it will always be distracting. And if you ever pick another movie with ridic rashaan in it, that's all I'm going to be able to do is just watch the thumb.

Sean:

Look for the phone on the list. Sorry, there's two on the light.

Giannis:

Okay, I don't know why you're you continue to pick them then. Because now that I have noticed the thumb, the thumb isn't gonna go away. The thumb will return. And it's just it's going to be more prevalent. It's going it's going to inhabit just the forefront of my mind every time. I know that he's in something. I'm going to be at the edge of my seat on guard vigilant waiting for the thumb. At least you're paying attention every that's it though. That's all I'm going to be able to notice is the thumb so thumbs for nothing, I guess two thumbs for nothing.

Sean:

Would you give this movie three thumbs up? No, I

Giannis:

would give it one. I would give it ridiculous Sean's right thumb down which is two thumbs up so sorry, Hrithik. If

Sean:

you aren't as funny, but I'm a little annoyed that that's the only thing you could talk about throughout this entire fucking review. I thought you at least give me I'm not joking.

Giannis:

I'm not joking. If you're listening, I at least pay attention

Sean:

to your movies,

Giannis:

you will have been a fantastic sport. And I am sure you are a lovely man like with much to offer the world.

Sean:

I love reading the song and cool actor.

Giannis:

It's not upsetting it. I am not revolted by the thumb. I just fixate on it. I can't not look at the thumb

Sean:

that you had to use revolted right there I felt like was really unnecessary.

Giannis:

It is not repulsive. It is not repugnant. If

Sean:

you don't need to stop,

Giannis:

it is not

Sean:

attention to it.

Giannis:

The thumb doesn't need attention call to it because the thumb will call all attention to it is a beacon for attention. ridic you are nice. You're a good man. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise.

Sean:

Okay, before thumb into your final rating. I just want to give a list of nitpicks because that's what my third dislike is just random nitpicks, there's a lot of eating and dinner scenes in this movie, like, at least three or four, they all drag they're all unnecessary exposition and kind of annoying. Next, there is this exposition computer scene around 20 minutes in where the lady COP is introduced. And she's like, here's Mr. kit. Let me tell you about Mr. A. He's the smartest and coolest thief in the world. I did like that she called him smartest and coolest thief. But in order to show how smart Jay is, and how he figures out, basically Mr. A's next moves, he literally taps on the keyboard right next to him. And somehow this magically, like pinpoints things on a map and shows all the data that he compiled by pressing like three buttons. There's a certain amount of disbelief I can suspend for crazy action scenes, but I can't believe that you pressed nonchalantly by the way it's not like he really was like at that computer he just kind of glanced over and with one hand pressed a couple buttons and boom there's a whole PowerPoint presentation on the screen. That doesn't make any fucking It's ridiculous. I still enjoy it but it's a little much after oh actually before this there is a scene where lady cop again I'm so sorry I'm not using your name but she accidentally handcuffs herself and interrogation room and then I'll leave walks and it is so stupid. There's no I just don't even know how you would accidentally cuff yourself. There's no reason for this scene to exist.

Giannis:

Well also, we could return to it later. Later on, you

Sean:

could still have the idea of the scene of Ellie coming on to her and just not have that stupid setup

Giannis:

is ridiculous. Every time he's he's chained to a bike. He's in love with a new lady. It's really funny and cool

Sean:

that I'm just I just don't like how she can copy himself. At the end, a couple of things. So at the very end, the epilogue scene turns out Miss ray is not dead. He has a he has a what at the epilogue is not dead. He has a bar with Sue Henny Sue Henry. Have you pronounce that sir Mary

Giannis:

Sue Mary Sue Henry.

Sean:

Henry. Anyways, he started a bar was scenary. And they go into the kitchen when they come out. literally everyone is gone from this packed bar. This is 30 seconds. And only Jay is there playing pool. First of all, what could Jay have possibly set to make 20 people evacuated this bar in under 20 seconds in total silence What could he possibly have done? Number two, there's a lot of coke advertising, particularly in the scene, something to know I found it quite funny also to know everyone just orders a beer they say hey, can you get me a beer? Can you get me a beer, they never specify what kind of beer they just say beer. And finally, finally the most egregious point of the scene. Jay says I've been hanging out in this town this random ass town for six months waiting for you to pull in other jobs. But you haven't pulled another job. So I guess you're okay in my book now excusing the logic of you know, this guy is still criminal. Let me just let him go. Even though he killed that helicopter pilot excusing that keep in mind his wife was heavily pregnant earlier in the movie. So if he had to stay in this random town outside of India for six months, this must have meant that he missed his own child's birth. child's Bernarda stake out this this thief and to ultimately say, you know, you're okay dude. much,

Giannis:

you know, shot I got to be honest, I forgot that he had a wife and I forgot that that

Sean:

was my third movie.

Giannis:

Well, you know, I was just ridiculous. Sean was in the theme was in the theme was in the thumb was in the scene, his thumbnails in the scenes. And so naturally,

Sean:

you are like a stand up comedian who has one joke, and just hits on the one joke every time and you can't progress you can't. I'm a I'm a one trick pony gave you the opportunity to with this movie. There were so many jokes. There were so many jabs that you could have made it and I fully expected to you too. But you

Giannis:

know, finding to learn about me is not to expect anything because I will never do what you expect. I will only do what you don't

Sean:

expect. You're very disappointing. I don't care. Why is every try to sum up. Every time I think we're gonna have a really good episode, you end up just ruining it for whatever reason. I love this movie. I still think this can be a good episode, but I think he just fucked it up every time. It could have been much better. I think you're gonna find paid attention to the goddamn movie.

Giannis:

I found you're gonna find that people are gonna like this one. Okay.

Sean:

Oh my god, you keep fucking forcing that thumb jokin what final thoughts and rating? Let's finish this.

Giannis:

I gave my final thoughts about 10 minutes ago. Two thumbs down ever gonna be for me? One of rennaker Sean's thumbs his right thumb down.

Sean:

Give an actual rating you want in my game?

Giannis:

What did I give? This Molly's game is leagues beyond this. It's not as bad as Bloodsport I was a little worried ah man Oh 4.8 if we can do decimal if for literally said You said you can't use a decimal hold on all right. No, no I have it. Okay, if I have it Alright, so for what? Yeah, okay, so I can't Alright, four and four of Hrithik Roshan fingers on his left hand out of five

Sean:

Sure. cans for coke bottles and four Hrithik Roshan thumbs down, all right ya jerk, I hope and says Wow, this guy's a real asshole. What do we got next week? Well, you

Giannis:

know what is the Elephant Man? There's one thing I really think about what I'm when I'm watching Indian movies, bollywood movies, and and i'm not noticing Hrithik roshan tuff. The other thing I'm hinking about inevitably, is olonialism. So I thought we ould watch An old British film hat I watched years and years ack and I thought was pretty ood that I'd like to revisit nd see if if it holds up

Sean:

Arabia.

Giannis:

So. So Sean, I want you to, I want you to go get your pillow, rip it up, let all those feathers fly all over the place. And I want you to start counting them and I want you to count them. And then I want you to take all those feathers on what you know, throw them in the air, and I want you to pick them all up and count them again and see how many you're missing. And Sean, if you've just so happened to be missing some I hope you can find and therefore missing by the way this is only stipulated by if you're missing four feathers, I hope you find the four feathers that you're missing because you're going to need those extra four feathers to stuffed back into your pillow and put for filing your battle to watch the four feathers on HBO max because it's the four feathers. We're watching the four feathers really long set up for

Sean:

really long. really disappointing. I don't know that I

Unknown:

don't care heard of it in my

Sean:

entire life. So

Giannis:

I know you have an actual race is not going to work with the SEOs at all it's going to totally undo all of the goodwill but due to all due

Sean:

care about the SEOs. I want to know no no I do. I do the suicide of your listens. No, I'm not top five. Listen, listen to episodes you only have one of your picks.

Giannis:

Wait I do

Sean:

I have one which one once upon a time in the West because that's our very first episode.

Giannis:

Oh, number one number one

Sean:

number one is actually the introduction.

Giannis:

But okay, well, that doesn't count. No it doesn't.

Sean:

But the only reason why it's number one is because that's their very first episode people naturally go first

Giannis:

and Oh, and I pretty two I'm the best I float like a butterfly sting like a bee oh my god all weather joke for feather like a feather sting like a bee float like for feathers. Muhammad Ali impressions okay to do because he was a very famous athlete. Oh

Sean:

no, you can't

Giannis:

yes still not allowed. Oh, come on. And Billy Crystal could do it. So can I

Sean:

that doesn't mean Billy Crystal was okay with doing that

Giannis:

while Billy Crystal Billy Crystal and Muhammad Ali were actually very close friends which is why he was like it was okay you look it up look up Gian is look up his impression of Muhammad Ali is actually rea

Sean:

like a bee like you're allergic to bees see swell up and die. That's how much my sting gonna sting you when we do this review. So go fuck yourself.

Giannis:

Go Sean. Go for yourself with red.

Sean:

Double thumb up your ass and go fuck off.

Giannis:

Go stick one of Hrithik Roshan Rashad thumbs up your ss and you know the one I mean, ot the left one. It's the one on the right. Goodbye, folks. If you've entered this long I don t kn