A Very Merry Netflix Christmas: A Christmas Prince: The Royal Wedding

Hi. Oh my god. So, Hi everyone. Welcome to a very Netflix Christmas. It's me, Olivia. Oh wait, I should say this is the 25 day. A Christmas movie advent calendar podcast. I'm Olivia and with me always is Shawn. Hi, I'm Sean. And so you know, you might think that was a spontaneous opening right there, but it wasn't. We were going to recording for four minutes. And let me uh, has been holding, trying to get that burp down. And we've had some other pre burps but now we're finally starting. So yeah, I'm Sean. Hi. Today we watched a Christmas presents the royal wedding. So the sequel to the Christmas prints, and we have a whole lot to talk about Sean. It's like one drinking wine. Oh my god. Oh, I started 11 I started as soon as we started watching this movie, the first thing that we had in this movie I said, like what we'll get into the pot later, but I said shouldn't amber have security and Shawn goes you know how Adobe a security is? Olivia? Yeah, because in the in the first movie, if you listen to that episode, we've established our Adobe security is god awful, either no one's doing their jobs. Or maybe they fired everybody or maybe I don't know, but they're really bad at their jobs. No security. Yeah. Yeah, no security, everyone's really bad at their jobs. And we've got a lot of plot to get through and I we've got some major timeline stuff to get over. Okay, like I have been waiting for over an hour to explain my theory to Sean but I had a wait until we were recording. So where do we want to get started, Sean? Well, do we want to remind listeners real quick of what our running timeline theory is? Yeah. Okay. Do you want me to explain the only explain what I believe it is right now. And then you kind of shoot it in the head and say, yeah, this is what it is. Okay, that let's do that. Alright, listeners. So this all started in the princess switch episode, so you can hear it starting there. But what we figured out is that there's two running universes within the Netflix Christmas cannon. So it's a multiverse. The multiverse is run by two Gods like fanfiction writers who may or may not be us time traveling again listen to the other episodes understand this because it's very fucking complicated. Anyways, the two fanfiction writers are the old crone from the night before Christmas, and kindly man from princess switch. Just so you need to go back and listen if you haven't. Okay, it is Episode Four and Episode Five. Very, very crucial. It's crucial to our canon, you know, anyway, it's Olivia, you're gonna upset that theory or add to it hit me hit me. You hit me with your new theory hit me with it. So my notes here all caps. Olivia knows which timeline Olivia is about to bust and not I was literally about to bust and not. Wait. No. So throughout this whole movie, I wasn't a huge fan of Christmas prints to when I first watched it. And when we were watching it this time I posed the question to Sean, are there two Christmas prints timelines? Which we might be going that direction? But Shawn, you loved this movie. There were so many things that you loved about it. First of all, Amber has a new dad, which I absolutely loved. Love them. Uh, we kept we kept talking about how like, I'm loving this. How did you not like this? This is amazing. And we talked about how you are getting way too deep in to this whole thing and the timelines and stuff. Well, I've been editing the episodes together. And as I add it, I will just text Olivia Oh, what about this going on in the universe? Like, oh, maybe this means this and etc, etc. Putting pieces together. Like for example, with Christmas inheritance because we didn't have this working theory before during Christmas inheritance. And I was thinking myself who so we know that that's in the old crone universe, right. I'm like, okay, who's the old crone in that movie? And at first, I thought it was at McDowell because it would make sense but then I realize it has to be the father. Hear me out. You think old crone. I can't be the dad. But the dad, the actors name I can't remember his first name, but his last name is Crone. All Crone just through just made it so on the nose obvious that she was that that she him whatever is that character also by what we've established so far Kylie man kind of dictates throughout the plot and kind of just pushes people in certain directions. While they old crone instigates the plot. She kind of takes it from the beginning and pushes the main character so and Kristen is Prince, it'd be max ambers boss at the blog place that sends her off to do her story. That's the old crone in that movie. That's my working theory right now, again, Olivia, you're gonna, you're gonna throw this down. You're gonna beat it to death. You're gonna murder everything I'm thinking right now. Tell me. Yes. So Shawn. We assumed that because this is Christmas Prince tale, that this is going to be an old crone timeline movie, right? Because it's the sequel. However, I think this is a kindly man movie. Okay, how so? Because the data is completely different. You loved the dad love the data diner changes, like I think we're gonna get into this is a kindly man moving. Okay. I like to think it is. Is that your revelation? I get? Yeah, I was like freaking out. You know, this isn't the reaction I was going for. I thought you'd be more excited to hear that this was you know, and they talked about the origin of Santa Claus and you're like, Oh, I want this to be an kindly man would be so bad. I'm like, Is it like in my mind I'm like, it is a currently man movie like this is not an old crone movie. It's It feels like way okay, that means that means that kindly man hijack the prints of the Christmas prints universe. Yeah, he's stall his stall all krones movie I forgot the main reason why we real that I realized that this is a current this probably would have been a better reveal. In Christmas prints the royal baby which I went back to like look at the map because I want to see where all doby was supposed to be. They show in the map they have all jovia and they how they have Belgravia and Belgravia is the land from a princess which so we're like, holy shit. I'll delvia and Belgravia exist in the same universe I'm like, but that does but that meant that if both the countries existed, does that mean that we actually have our two timelines? My answer is yes. Be cause kindly man hijacks the Christmas Sprint's to and it makes sense because fanfic writers. And you know me, I love fanfic, they all would like a huge part of it is like writing sequels. Like I want to write fanfic for alpecin him and he's like, Hey, man, it needs a sequel. I want to write hang man, too. You know, so it makes sense that kindly man sees a Christmas Prince is so inspired, writes his own Princess, which bullshit and also writes a sequel to Christmas Prince. This is a kindly man movie, it's kindly man's petty revenge on all Krohn. He's just like, you know, I'm going to take you out. I'm going to I'm going to take what you created, and I'm going to do my own spin on it. And they're like, first of all, I hate the dad. We're changing the dad. Yeah. Okay. Here's what I want to say. And this is something that is another one of the natten this current movies actually explaining something that we have watched in the past. So I don't know I I'm always blank on names. What's the little girl's name again? No idea. Okay, so little girl tells Amber, a story about Santa Claus. And I don't remember the exact story but she basically says in the past, Santa Claus was some kind of baby ogre thing. I don't know. But basically, I just went Wait a second. Amber goes Shrek. Yeah, it's just like, that means that Santa Claus exists in the Christmas prints to universe. And here's the thing I thought that meant that that so that means that Christmas Chronicles is in the same universe. Now I thought that meant that Christmas Chronicles was now in all Crone universe, but now Olivia, you're flipping the script and you're saying Christmas Chronicles is in kindly man universe. Yeah, I think Christmas Chronicles is in kindly man universe, which also means that Stranger Things is in the Christmas Prince universe. Okay. But also also it's also and now explains a lot about Kurt rustle Santa Claus and that he's an ogre. You didn't think about that on your watch. The whole movie didn't go. He's an ogre. But guess what pitches he's an ogre. He is an ogre. like Shrek. He's a mythical creature, and that's why he has magic. Yeah, that's why they did it. It's crazy. And so it's just I think the reason why so I think we'll have to go back and read like when we go watch Christmas prints three. We'll have to see if it's kindly man or fold crown is coming back. But I think Christmas prints three is going to be kindly man again, because there's that shot of the map that has Belgravia and adobea. So I think that was another way for that's I think that's when Kylie man says no, this isn't fanfiction. This is canon. Look. They're both he's forcing it in. He's forcing it in. Okay, two things going off of that. I was telling Olivia as we are watching, that doesn't necessarily mean that they have to exist in the same universe because it could just be old crone and Kylie man fucking with each other. And also even if I cuz I bet you Netflix does this in the future. They do a crossover movie between princess switch and a Christmas Prince. Right? You know what's coming, guys. We all know it's coming. They set it up. But then you go Wait a second Christmas Prince was a movie in princess switch? How is that fucking possible? Because the the the multiple timelines we established know the multiple timelines. But also it could be that Christmas presents the movie on Netflix and Princess, which is a movie that was recreated from a true story. So we just didn't get the based off of a true story, title card that and then I guess if those same actors show up, then they would have played themselves in the movie or something. It's very confusing. But anyways, that's only a hypothetical if that happens, but going back to kindly man right now. Well, first of all, I don't I don't think a Christmas principle is happening. Because Netflix hasn't mentioned anything about it don't so don't rip my heart out like that. There is the Google question is I'll do via a real place now. It's not come on guys, is genovia a real country that's no one from Princess Diaries. Here's another thing that throws credence or credibility to your theory that this is a kindly man movie. It's so crazy. I love it. So if you guys know the meme of Charlie and it's always sunny with all the charts and looking like a conspiracy theories. We've all seen this meme right? That's basically me right now. I'm pulling it all the plugs looking at everything. analyzing our data, right? There have been multiple times this week. I've been like, Shawn, you're you're doing a Donnie Brasco on me like you're getting too deep. I need to pull you out. Like you're taking this too seriously. I love it. Oh, I love it. The reason why I love this. It's not even that I necessarily love the movies. I think they're fun. But I haven't had this much fun. And exploring something so unknown. In yours. Like the last time I felt like this was when I was first discovering bollywood movies. And I was just like, what is this? Oh my God, this exists? This is brilliant. Why? Why is nobody talking about this? We all got to be talking about this. So I feel a similar feeling with this where we are mapping uncharted territory right now. No one knows what is going on except us. And it's fascinating. But we're still exploring because we don't know we don't have all the answers. We haven't watched all the movies. So it's like this big question that we're answering. But anyways, also what if you are old crown actually what if we're wrong and your old crown and I don't know? Yeah, it could be it could be because if I've ever going off the running theory as I said before, that the Father and Christmas inheritance is the old crone than old crone can be either gender which means I don't know I mean, I think honestly like I don't think it goes by gender I thought it was more like movies that we enjoy because I loved the night before Christmas so why why the fuck would kindly man right that you know and I think like these are these fanfic writers are like if the real beings so like they're like gender is not a construct for them, you know? But it depends if it's us or not. Which we don't know. Is it us Are we ready? Are you saying we're theory Oh beings do eat is that our features that will become? I don't know yet. Have you ever seen saying the anime Neon Genesis even galleon No. Okay, well, it might be something like that because that whole anime is about like where do humans go? Like how do humans evolve? Do we evolve into these ethereal Christmas movie loving? Oh my god, what if we never did this? What if What if that one day I called you up to watch Night Before Christmas? What if you didn't answer the phone? Would we even be here right now? It was destiny Ella. It was destiny. Watch Night Before Christmas that one day, and for you to goad me on to watch the Santa who fucks. But I really want to talk about my theory right now with the kindly man. So as I said earlier, this isn't a Christmas waiting podcast anymore. This is it is. But even though we were not even close to talking about summary, or anything of the plot, as we said earlier, as it seems right now, old crone sets the characters in motion and kind of lets it play out, or kindly man inserts himself throughout the entirety of the plot. It kind of pushes people in the direction, right? Mm hmm. The dad the new dad is kindly mad, he's pushing people. He's pushing people. He's a kind man. He's pushing people and this plot, not as much as kindly man from princes switch, but to a degree. No, I think he's just trying to like he's definitely like foreigner out of like, he's a New Yorker. Like he's walked like, like we were saying I know he literally walked off the set of the sopranos into Aldo via and yeah, I don't I don't think it's Yeah, I don't think it's a kindly I don't think he's kindly man. Oh, listeners going off of that. This this this man walked in with with the most New Yorker Italian stereotype I've seen in quite a while. And I told Olivia, I bet you $10 this guy was on the sopranos at some point. Now I was wrong. I was wrong. He mostly does. Video Game of voiceovers so that's my bad I said if this guy doesn't make a slicer if this guy doesn't make a slice of pizza I don't understand this movie. Well here's the thing what we got to talk about is that the plot we got to talk about the plot no Olivia we got to talk about the new deck because this year right this this man is like 100% different from the previous dad and just about every way and what one of them is Yeah, I know I know who kindly man is kindly man is not the dad kindly man is Miss Avro the lady who's so strict about the protocols for no reason I've given Olivia face right now cuz fuck that now kindly man cuz because I think kindly man is trying to switch it up kindly man can't like always be coming in like you should do that. Like, oh, they look great. Like I think it because Miss Avril influences the plot in a different way. It's because of all the protocols that we have a bunch of conflict between Richard and Amber. That's where a lot of the conflict stems from without the whole life government corruption plot, which we'll get to at some point I loved you got a little wedding we got a little corruption, you know, so I think it's miss our because Miss Avro is always there, always there and we have to think, Shawn, this isn't a theory of being and they're trying out different things. You know, I think it's Miss Avro my heart cuz you know, I'm right at tearing my heart apart. Olivia. You're tearing it because Ms. Admiral's strict dedication to the protocol is what derives the character is what drives Richard and Amber apart. It's what fuels a bunch of the stuff that amber has to go through. You know, I'll say you're not entirely wrong, but my heart wants to say you're wrong, but you know, I'm right. Because it's not that I know you're right. I know you're right. But you know, we'll wait for the next one. Okay. Well wait for the next fucking one. But But kindly man could be somebody different in the third movie, like, you know, these are the real beings they could change. It's just gave myself a bit of hope. And then you kind of just stamped it out. It just, you know, just shat on my hopes and dreams because I love you know, you did. To me, I was hoping to be really excited and you're like, No, fuck you. Yeah, sure. What should we talk about the plot of this movie? Can I talk about the man the father? I just want to say how much I love him and I feel like you don't you're not letting me Ah, also, I'm being Miss AV roll right now. Yeah. Also speaking of people not letting because I feel like this can't go unaddressed. I apologize. In previous episodes, I spoke over you a lot. I just got really excited. And that's my bad. So I apologize for that. Thank you. But we got to talk about the father right now, because it's our major point of contention. And it's probably the biggest part of this movie. So you told me before, rewatch this movie, they switch out the father, He's the worst, I hate him. And I went in thinking, Oh, man, this guy's gonna be a real fucking loser real deck. And no, he's just a New Yorker Italian stereotype, which, you know what? I love being from New Jersey, and not Italian. But being from New Jersey, Eric, mind me back home. And I enjoyed. He had such a fun sense of humor that I really enjoyed and brought something interesting with the character, which again, is 100% different from the past one. And that's why I made the pizza joke. If he doesn't make a slice of pizza, I don't understand because here's the thing. And this is this is what irks me about this movie. Okay? He He says, So in the first movie, he has a bakery, or a local restaurant of some sort. And that's basically what would be stroke or cafe, whatever, cafe Bistro, whatever. But then when he comes over to all jovia, he's like, Guys, I got a diner. It's it's a diner. And I said to myself for fucking shit. A new york new jersey diner is so incredibly specific. And I love diners, diners back home. Going back, I'm glad to see you. But I know I'm going back into the movie to see what kind of restaurant it is. But even if they here's the thing, even if they say it's a diner, it's a fucking lie. Because it's not a diner. Folks, if you look it up, or if you from Rudy's diner bullshit. This called Rudy's dyes are fucking New Yorkers. Okay? That's all I can tell you. It's bullshit diner diner, a diner, at least at least you know, I'm a little slanted, because I'm from Jersey, not New York. But a diner has a more. I don't know how to describe it. But if I showed you a picture, I'm just saying it threw me for a loop. This is not a diner got me a little frustrated. I felt lied to. But I still love the father and his sense of humor. Yeah, and if I didn't know with my notes, I say I hate the new dad. You're not my real dad. Because the old he's like, he's a lot shorter. He doesn't have any facial hair. Like because the old the original debt Oh, gee, dad, not our stepdad. Oh gee, dad, he is taller, bald and has facial hair. This guy is shorter than amber has hair, but no facial hair and has this wild accent and it's supposed to be a caricature of a New Yorker. And they just want to throw them in to eldo to be like, here's this clueless guy in a foreign country. And I think it was just really cheesy and really can't be and there are some there are some cute moments but like the whole time I'm like you're not a real person. You're a caricature of a person Same thing with the wedding planner so he'll he's also a complete caricature not a real person. He is a caricature he is an issue i mean i also with final thought with the father at least for now he's basically Joe patchy in a lethal weapon movies that that's what his character is like. I enjoyed it. But with so here, yeah, I mean, I don't fucking remember. He was very much a stereotype. But yeah, that's all I gotta say. You don't need to talk about him. So the plot of this movie it's actually not super complicated. Um, despite all the shit that we went into with the timelines essentially it's a year after or round a year after Richard and Amber got engaged and so they're planning the wedding the weddings gonna be on Christmas. And it's it's a story of like, Amber's learning her role within the royal family. There's also a subplot going on where like there's economic issues going on and although via with handset government corruption and so you have Amber's being forced to like follow this very strict royal protocol, which are not standing up for her and then also this like government subplot happening at the same time, which it also go for. Yeah, I was gonna say which I really dug I I had no idea what this movie was gonna be about. I thought it was just gonna be a wedding. And you know what, I would love that too. I love bollywood movies. And as soon as there was a moment where amber runaway ran away, and they're like, Oh, we got a runaway bride and I'm like, Oh my God, we got the Bollywood going on, we got it going on love it. But that's why it's a Kylie man movie. But they didn't stick to it. Unfortunately, it. I feel like the we're jumping. I'm jumping ahead a little bit, but I felt like the wedding itself was very lackluster compared to everything else. I mean, I really I really dug the corruption plot. Because it's not that it's necessarily complicated or anything. It's just you kind of go why in the fuck was this here? But you know what, I love it for it, because I would never have guessed it. But it actually it actually makes sense. Because part of the issue is that amber wants to spend more time with Richard especially right before they get married. But he keeps getting pulled away into like economic business and stuff. And it's because there was this new economic plan that's not working out. And so it's nice that instead of me like, Oh, I'm busy, I'm a king. It's like, no, there's actually like strikes going on power outages. Sweet burb, Shawn, um, there's a bunch of like, political stuff. And so I liked that they brought that in, you know, rather than just being like, Oh, it's a movie about a wedding. Because it's about them, like learning to, because we don't really have a couple getting together. Like we need to see the strife we still need to have some sort of like romantic strife for this to be like a romance movies. So yeah, and I mean, I will first say what I really loved about it, too, was seeing Amber's investigate and getting really into it. Giving her that kind of storyline, especially given her background is way more interesting than if she was just doing wedding stuff, which again, I still would have enjoyed, but I really appreciate that they did it this way. But also to your point of adding the strife between the two. It's something where, you know, in a more procedural, I mean, it's just like a lot of movies and TV shows once the couple gets together. They have trouble writing Oh, how do you add strife when they're ready together but as we've seen with the royal family as of late with, you know, I'm not gonna throw some names around but Megan Markel? You know, it's actually a closer depiction than what I've realized. But it's interesting. Yeah. And at the beginning of the movie, I was like, Man, this has some really strong Harry Megan vibes. And like, it was very much like, haha, you stupid American. We're in charge of your image now, like, it doesn't matter what you want. It's all about the crown. It's all about the protocols. It's all about the royal family. Um, and Sean even said, this movie, so I'm Megan Markel, leaving the royal family from a mile away. And yeah, that's exactly what happened. Because this movie, what came out a year or two before that? Yeah, yeah. But a year year and a half before so it's kind of it's funny how that it's like the day predicted or did Megan Markel. Watch this movie and go, you know what I should do? Harry, come here real quick. I have an idea. Also, when I think Yeah. Oh, I was just gonna say, I'm pretty sure Harry and Megan Markel, have signed a Netflix deal in the past couple of months. So it would be incredible if they make a fourth one of these movies. And then Harry and Megan show up in like one of the scenes as a cameo and be like, oh, we're really that will never happen. But old man kindly man old crown really fucking with us. And I think you know, a lot of the strife is that amber doesn't fit into like standard gender roles. And I'll novia is very, very much about gender roles. So while Richard is dealing with all the politics and stuff, she wants to help and talk about it, and then he's like, as much as I as I want you to help like, you're gonna be stuck during the wedding planning. And she's like, Fuck the wedding because she can't even clean her own wedding like that. All these people like this is what the wedding is going to be because tradition. And so she like has to sneak away to investigate and she's the one that uncovers the the governmental corruption. So yeah, I'm looking over I know it's a you put epic zams and Simon is Moriarty. Simon comes back the evil cousin my Christmas Prince comes back and we love him. Okay, so when he comes back, it's one of the best scenes of this movie. So he comes back everyone. Well, everyone's in one of the main rooms. He comes back and then we zoom in on literally everyone's face and this ridiculous soap opera melodramatic. Ask way and slowly, like six people in this room so everyone gets their own zoom in close up. And it's incredible. And the reason why I say Moriarty too is Eric. He reminds me so much of Andrew Scott and Sherlock. And I remember I feel like there was I barely remember the show, but I'm sure he started off as antagonistic and I think he had a team up with Sherlock for an episode, but they were kind of, you know, like, do I trust them? I can't really trust them. He's the bad guy kind of thing. And I'm like, Oh, that's what you got going here but ends up a little different. Yeah, because when when there's economic problems coming in to people come in Simon comes in and so does Lord Leopold, which reminded me of like the Bugs Bunny cartoon, where like, there's gonna be a symphony and Bugs Bunny comes in, like Leopold level, you know, and then he does his conducting thing on the best Bugs Bunny cartoons anyway. And so obviously, everyone supports Lord Leopold. And they're like, shut the fuck up, Simon. And he's like, I went to Oxford and studied economics. Actually, I came back to help you because I love this country. And also, my wife took everything in the divorce, so I have nowhere else to go. Because remember, he got married in the last movie? And how many do we lose? How did he lose everything in the divorce? Because Sophie is a fucking bitch. I think that was that was it Sophia? Was that his was at the x. And then anyway, no idea. And so, you know, everybody trusts Lord Leopold, because he was like the Kings most trusted advisor, and then yes, whoa, what do you do? What do you do? So the economic plan is that they're going to they're trying to like give incentives or people to like invest back until out although via with, like, all davian companies, so they like give money to all Debian companies to like, or like, I don't really know how it works. But what was happening is that a bunch of fake companies started up as like shell companies. So all the money that was supposed to be going to all DOB was actually going out of eldo via into like, fake chat. And it was this Leopold guy who like fixed it. Oh, who like did that and stole a bunch of money. So he got thrown in the dungeon. Yes. And that's how you know this is a kindly man movie. Because my one of my favorite parts about the first movie, if you remember that episode was the dungeon, which everyone jokes about is like, oh, but it's not real. You know, Mike, now that fucking dungeon is real. There's no way it's not real. And then they confirmed it at the end. That fucking dungeon is real. And they threw him in there and I don't want to spoil too much. But I think that might mean that Christmas prints three could be a kindly man movie. I love the dungeon that also also when they when they uncover him and expose him, Amber threatens him with a bow and arrow like going to shoot him. And I'm like, I don't know why this is here right now. But this is fantastic. I love it is great, and then they throw them in a dungeon. They throw him in the dungeon. We have we had a handful of Christmas cliches but a lot of stuff was just reused from the last one like from last Christmas prints like starting with NYC shots fake European countries British accents. I didn't hear schedule or schedule this time actually, I didn't hear it either. Which is kind of ironic considering the fact that it's about a wedding where shed walls are quite important quite important to have a sheduled wedding so just like amber had a taxi had an issue getting a taxi from the airport so does ambers. Dad, they have plays on words just like you know circle. They're talking about her bridal suite and she's like sweet sweet sweet is weird, almost kisses wearing short sleeves and snowy times not wearing pants and snowy times. Oh my god, Prince Richard literally said keep calm and carry on. And I was like, Sir, you are not in the United Kingdom. You are the king of eldo via and then you I mean, Christmas baking, archery, horseback riding dead Mom, it's a member's mom. And you brought up a few things to Sean, you brought up Christmas cards. Yeah, like in Christmas inheritance, where the Christmas cards are such a vital part of that storyline. They're also important here, you know, you got the you know, the Christmas cards, heartfelt letters. In this case, it's basically a heartfelt fuck you which, you know, the phokeethra world family he's actually the court. Yeah. And also, just like we have lying about identity. We could also say Lord Leopold was doing that like he was lying about his identity, his intentions, spouse, girl figured that. She always figures that out. She always does it always. Also, this is not a Christmas cliche, but I want to make sure it's said so when ever is doing her journalism, and she's talking to one of the guys who lost his job. She takes out a notepad and starts writing Now, I'm not a journalist. So I don't know what kind of notes Sure. Reporters, journalists investigators, right. But she wrote literally two notes. She wrote a dash the name of the fake company that the company that Meadowlark you know, yeah, that's going corrupt involved in the corruption and then not a sub point by Hall. Another point underneath that fishy question mark. She just writes fishy. Yeah, there's like, no dates, no names of the guy that she's interviewing no other notes. Like it's a blank sheet of paper with two words on it. And it's just but it's also just the organizational structure of those two notes. It's why what why is fishy, not a sub point of it is fishy. Just a whole new idea. is fishy describing something else. Is it that the pub smells fishy? It's, I know it's not it's just I don't know, because I I'm a writer, I do a lot of note taking myself, and I just can't fathom taking notes and such a I mean, how we we took better notes, just watching this fucking movie than she'd made notes. My notes about uncovering and this is a kindly man movie are much more involved in detail than her uncovering like a corruption plot within her own fiance's government or country. You know, like, yeah, I'm talking about Don't we have to do the fight? Who's gonna win the fight? Okay, well, who's involved in this fight? So we got circle, obviously, this is your call from night before Christmas. Is he gonna fight? I think we have two contenders for the fight. Correct me if I'm wrong. contender one is Simon is now is a good guy. So who's gonna win the fight? Simon or circle Simon? For sure. I mean, obviously, he's gonna he's gonna do some dirty and just take out circle. He He's gonna throw it. Okay, I forgot. Sorry. We have to we have to give them weapons. Right. So you see what we traditionally do with these fights is we got to give each character a weapon. Right? So circle has this sword. And you ask yourself what is Simon have Olivia? Correct me if I'm wrong. But Simon has his economics degree. I was just thinking that if you let me if you gave me two seconds, I would have said he could have used his economics degree. I'm so sorry. Oliver. You want it? You want to say it again? I think Simon would be able to take down circle with nothing but his economics degree. Yeah, I mean, it's like I mean, think about it. You guys sword. You got literally the paper degree that says degree in economics? Who's gonna win that fight? Come on, guys. We know we know. Yeah. So called doesn't stand a chance. I think it's because Simon would probably orchestrate it to where like someone else would like he would start running away but he knows that he's got something with his economics degree. He's planned for everything. And so he's got a dude waiting behind a corner so he just has to run circles not gonna see the see the trap already laid out. And yeah, but so also with economics. Economics is a bit of Christmas magic right here, where the factory that created circle sort of could have been underfunded or something like that. So that the sword is just made very cheaply. And then it just falls apart. And he's like, haha, economics. But is the is this the sword that he brought with him from the medieval times? Oh, noes. Oh, are you saying Simon went back in time and caused an economic issue so that like, is that? Is that what we're going? I don't know. You know, he's a very underhanded dude. So maybe, I don't know. Or he uses the paper to like, give circolo paperclip a paper cup all the way across his throat. I did that in a movie once I made a movie where someone would cut someone else's throat with a paper like that. So he could he could either way how, however, Simon wants to use his economics degree, whether it's the actual piece of paper, or if it's through some strategy, we know that circles going down or if he used his economics degree after it was framed, you know, just bashed over the head with it. Dead. Yeah, that works too. And then the other fight circle versus new dad and new dads has a Christmas cookie. I was gonna say pizza sauce. You know that dad is going to drown circle and pizza but he doesn't have pizza sauce in the movie. I mean, you can do the Kony hot dog for you. To do Christmas cookies, nor his Christmas sweater, it's the jellied ham that he eats. But he doesn't make the jellied ham he makes the slider at the end if you want to include the slider, the hockey puck slider I think he just talks at circle with a bunch of his New York New Yorker colloquialisms or whatever and just like kills, like kills his brain and circle goes into a vegetative state and then of Vanessa Hudgens not the princess but the teacher has to like pull the plug on him you know, that's a good question. So and all these wasn't a question no no. And and all these discussions if circle falls into a coma what Vanessa Hudgens be there for him when she pulls a plug well, sir call just don't how does he guess one thing that I've always thought about? Because you know, I've seen this maybe several 100 times. Um, how does he get a social security number sir, call get a social security number. Like if he's gonna stay in the present with Vanessa Hudgens? How do they make that work? Like he's gonna join the police force? Oh, I'm sure they can have criminal connections somewhere that they can just get a guy to make a fake one old crown old crown fucking did I bet when he comes back, like he goes into his room and finds a wardrobe and like there's a wallet with like, ID and stuff? Or you could theoretically because think about this way, he's not American from the get go. Right? So he would already be become trying to become a citizen. So he doesn't necessarily need to pretend to be American, he's to apply for US citizenship. But then what does he write on his citizenship papers like where you're from and all that kind of stuff? Right? He has no forms of identification. He's in no databases. He might be in a like, no, for some records in old timey England, like churches would keep like records and stuff. Like who's to say that his record would still be you know, even if it's there, no one's gonna believe it. Mm hmm. That's the real Christmas magic of that movie. old crone edit again. Yep. All right. Now we have the other segment. Ranking are heroes, same heroes, but do you want to include Simon in that list? Or now? Or is there anybody is that that list? The same as as it has been? I know, like Prince Richard in this movie, like he was kind of flaky. And then he realized his mistake, and he's like, Oh, I shouldn't have done that. Um, because Simon isn't really romantic hero. He he might become a romantic hero and the next movie, what we could do? I don't know. Because we have Prince Edward from princess which, but we don't have Kevin, you know. So let's just talk about let's just add Kevin. Yeah, well, is that Kevin? Okay. Cool. All right, Kevin. there we'll talk about him more in princess what's too switched again switched again. So just to recap, it's number one off the top fuckin Kurt Russell a Santa Claus which hopefully there's another person and Christmas Chronicles two or something because who? Okay, so we've got Kurt Russell, Prince Richard, Prince Edward. Kevin. Dude from El Camino Christmas. Did we have any? You didn't really count him? Or somebody else? circle. There was somebody else vying for dead last and we disagreed on Christmas inheritance of Yes, Jake. Jake from Christmas inheritance. Yeah, also, I we didn't we didn't talk about this, but I feel like we need to at least bring it up. Since we're on the prince Richard train right now. Every outfit he had was on point. I mean, whoever was his wardrobe stylist should get a raise because didn't ever mean every outfit was like, made me go I want that outfit to wear. I know I would not pull it off like he did. But it looks incredible on him. And I want to log in semi like that. Like when we first see him in khakis in that light powder blue sweater. Oh, or when he runs outside to try to find an amber and he's got like that black turtleneck. Oh, or when he's got his tux. Oh, those are all sounds Olivia may throughout the movie. Yeah. amorous outfits are great too, though. Very cute. There we go. Yeah. All right. Anything else you want to talk about this movie? I love you know, do you want to give it a rating? What rating would you give this movie? So I didn't hate it as much as the first time I saw it. So that's a plus. Um, but I think I still prefer Christmas print Christmas prints, obviously. And also princess which. So it's still better than Christmas inheritance, though. Oh, yeah. You know, it's like, it's seven out of 10. Yeah. For me, I think that the overall experience and the structures of Christmas Prince and Princess switch are better than this one. At the same time. I feel like a lot of the little things were better. Like, I love the dad. I love a lot of his jokes. I love the dungeon thing. It's, it felt like this movie knew its universe a little bit better, and kind of amped it up a little bit. But that's just me if I had to give a rating 7.5 Yeah, cool. Cool. Well, Merry Christmas, Shawn. Merry Christmas, Olivia. And only 19 days until Kurt Russell is coming in our chimneys. Oh. Can't wait Kurt. You know I number and you don't, but you email us at it very merry. christmas@gmail.com and just very, very merry Netflix, very merry netflix. christmas@gmail.com you know, give us a hoot give us a holler. Let us know if you're excited for charisma coming your chimney. I'm excited. Because that's that's the sign that he's saying it's when he's having this jailhouse orgy. He says he's he says, take down your stockings turn out the light because Santa is coming down your chimney tonight. It's it's an orangey